PM title: "BTW Thread" ====================== #1 FlowerChild -------------- I'd very much appreciate it if you not post to the BTW thread man. We've had a period of peace and quiet between us due to us not interacting, and I'd prefer to keep it that way if at all possible. At present, your presence there is only serving to aggravate me, and I don't think that benefits either of us. #2 Grom_PE ---------- Even though we had our moments, I still very much enjoy the experience your total conversion provides. I don't feel it's fair I'm getting ignored and cut off while I never meant any harm and was open for a reasonable discussion. We had quiet yes, but not peace. So I ask you, is it possible that we discuss the problem and settle this in a way no one feels aggravated, without resorting to dead silence and pretending that a person equals the problem? I reiterate, I would like to cooperate, but I don't want to be silenced as a last resort. #3 FlowerChild -------------- No man. You created massive problems for me, the mod, and the community through your behavior. I want absolutely nothing to do with you, and as I said, silence is the closest to any form of peace you an I will ever have. I'd very much appreciate if you respected that and simply kept to yourself. I would prefer this not escalate into open hostility once again, and that's inevitably what will happen if you force us to interact. #4 Grom_PE ---------- If only you found the courage to look back and think again: "Was it really that bad? What actually went wrong?" But okay, it's your choice. I am quite baffled as to what actual problems did I create, other than your massive overreaction and things caused by meaningless hate towards my persona and anything that has to do with it (you never stated objective reasons).. You know it yourself how it is to present information objectively, only to receive responses directed towards your persona. And yet you model the same behavior. Respect is a mutual thing. As such I will not avoid posting in BTW thread completely, but will keep it completely calm and non-personal, and only avoid asking questions that would require your involvement. (So I guess a couple of BTW bugs/inconsistencies will remain unsolved) I am not hostile towards you, and will do my best to remain that way. Happy New Year! #5 FlowerChild -------------- But I am however hostile towards you. As far as I am concerned, you're toxic scum man, and I absolutely want nothing to do with you. Everybody thinks they're the good guy. You are however distinctly wrong in that assumption. #6 Grom_PE ---------- OK, I admit you surprised me with that response there. Haha. You have my sincere apologies for I dared to point out, directly or indirectly, about the slight imperfection of your ways / your mod. I tend to believe that's the main gripe. #7 FlowerChild -------------- No, the main gripe is you obsessively harassing me and deciding to turn your mod of a mod into some kind of personal crusade when I clearly disapproved of what you were doing. As I said man: you're scum. You obviously have zero respect for creative integrity, and pretty much single handedly destroyed the add-on scene for BTW, in motivating me to crack down on it, because it was obvious that vandals such as yourself would only abuse my good will if I continued to support people who were genuine in their desire to expand upon my previous work. You can of course continue to justify behaving in such an abusive manner towards someone that hands out free content to people however you like, and you're obviously quite good at coming up with excuses for yourself, but you'll never convince me that you're anything other than the cheap thug that you have so clearly proven yourself to be. #8 Grom_PE ---------- Err... no. I am quite simply implementing ideas and fixing annoyances I gather while enjoying playing BTW alone and with friends. Have you bothered to check what's in my mod as of late? I can only think of the following features that could be interpreted as a "personal crusade": - tree stumps (yes, I read about the idea in BTW forums and liked it), - configurable HCSpawn radius (I remember you pointing that out, and I admit, at present state of the mod it has become unnecessary and I might as well remove it in the next release), and - scroll drop from ocelots (you mentioned at some point that ocelots are perfect the way they are), with the last point fitting to personal dig the most, but man, take a joke, would you? (May I point out that you also have this kind of fun with your modding: heads inspired by Forge debacle; don't feed the Beast.) All the other features are in no way conflicting with the spirit of Minecraft and BTW as it is. Even if they were, it's nothing that game-breaking, terrible and unholy that warrants damnation of the whole add-on thing. I still don't see you gained anything with your shut down and discouragement of add-on scene - I mean, here they are, genuine people that are not me, unable to make add-ons now. But I'm banned from BTW forum anyway, and with the way my mod is organized, nothing restricts me from continuing my work. See, what you did made little sense. And uh, I see you use that "free content" argument a lot. I am creating "free content" as well. We are doing what we enjoy, and provide ways to share that enjoyment with others. No obligations here, as long as it's all kept civil. #9 FlowerChild -------------- The difference is that I did so with the approval of the original creator of the game I am modding. The only mod Notch has ever publicly acknowledged was BTW, and he did so in a favorable manner. You are modifying someone else's creation under very different circumstances. I have never and will never approve of how you've vandalized my work. I really don't give a damn what your mod contains now as you have a long history of undermining what I've done and all the effort that I've put under it. As I said man, there will never be anything more peaceful between us than silence. I honestly hate your guts for the aggravation you've caused me in the past, and the only purpose further communication will serve between us is to motivate me to take more dramatic action against you. Personally, I'd prefer that we just keep our distance, and to largely forget that you exist. If you want to keep pushing however, I am more than willing to oblige. #10 Grom_PE ----------- So, I'm proud of BTW! I just don't see what you call "vandalizing" here when you don't care what my mod contains. It is exactly judging the book by the cover. Especially when I'm willing to try understand and adjust to no longer be "vandalizing". OK, "long history of undermining what I've done", I just facepalmed here. Anything other than HCSpawn radius configuration? Continuing modding BTW after you "forbid" it doesn't count, because the restriction was made after the fact and you cannot claim it's personal against you simply because I continue, whatever the content. You even implemented gravel and sand slabs after I had them in for a while, which means my features aren't that horrible... Now, why threats? If I cannot win peace, this could at least serve as an attempt to gain insight as to what exactly makes you hate me. #11 FlowerChild --------------- I'm done with you man. Your totally amoral justification of everything you do is beyond arguing with. Trying to debate morality with sociopaths is an exercise in futility. Like I said, keep pushing and I'll respond. Leave me alone, and I'll do the same. It's a straightforward transaction which I'm sure even you can understand.